I think the intent was to allow anyone the ability to temporarily fix a maimed limb,
rather than have a player stuck with a maimed limb for a long period of time due to
a healer not being availible.

I have always known the skill "Splinting" to allow you to splint a maimed limb.
The caveat, of course, being that it is not a heal - if you take any hit to that limb
before it is properly healed, the splint is broken and the maim effect returns.

Kendra, can you give any input here ?

Is this just poorly written, or have we been playing this rule incorrectly for 2 years ??

Well, in all respect, this way makes a lot more sense then the way we've been using it. Splinting a broken limb is not something easily done correctly. First aid means that you know about the body and how to fix it, it makes sence that someone skilled in first aid would know how to splint correctly.

Am checking with Kendra on this, to see if she remembers what the original intent was ...

Regardless of what the exact wording of the published skill is, I believe the intent was to allow anyone to be able to splint someone else's limb in an emergency. Otherwise you all would be dragging your sorry butts across the muddy field on hands and knees for hours at a time.

Think about it: buying a skill that allows you to be splinted by someone who has the first aid skill? that's ludicrous. The skill would be called "Splintable."

I know! Let's make everyone have to buy a zero point skill for each and every skill to be able to affect them! The smart people won't buy any of them so that they can walk around with full immunity to everything.

This is a no-brainer, folks. The wording is off, is all. This skill (IMO) is supposed to give everyone the extreme basics of half assed minimal first aid without having to expend XP on it.

Dwayne

Crovel is correct.

The Isles rules for Maims and splinting were based on the Maim and splinting rules in Aralis 2. The Aralis 2 rules have had considerable refining over the last several years, and may have clearer explanations than the Isles rules for this topic. See the skills 'Walking Wounded' and 'First Aid' on the page http://www.aralis.net/skills.html.

First Aid is necessary in order to splint someone's limb (including your own), just as First Aid is necessary to Stabilize someone to keep them from bleeding out.

You cannot split someone unless you have First Aid.

(Please don't complain about how this is unfair and anyone should be able to splint a broken limb so that it's fully usable. First Aid is a cheap and highly useful skill. It's like Basic Combat: don't argue that anyone should be able to hit someone and hurt them; just spend the tiny amount of points for the IG capability, or don't.)

I highly recommend changing the name of the 0 pt skill to something less confusing, though; I agree that 'Splinting' makes it sound like an active ability. It really means 'Splintable'.

The reason a 0 pt skill is necessary has to do with arcane issues of Accelerant-compliance. The rule for Accelerant games is that anyone should be able to come in and staff with only system knowledge of the core rules. Therefore, you can't require NPCs to know that in Isles, a call of 'Imbue by Medicine' will make their maimed limb usable under certain circumstances. You can use 0 point skills as a hack to allow global system rules that apply to all PCs even though they are not standard to all Accelerant games. Aralis 2 uses quite a few of these; perhaps a clearer example is the 'Survival Instinct' skill, which allows you to run away if suffering from a 'Drain by Fear'. Accelerant rules say when drained you can't run; the A2 free skill allows a PC ability to override the standard rules.

I hope that clears things up.

First: I agree that, if the skill does not allow PC A to temporarily fix PC B's Maimed Limb then the skill should not be called "Splinting."

Second: I think "Inbue by Medicine" is a very vague and completely non-descriptive confusing call.

Third: I don't think that there is a "Temproarily" afix in the Accelerant system that could be added to the call "Cure Maime by Medicine" so I don't see "Temporarily Cure Maim by Medicine" hapening any time soon.

Fourth: Because of my third point, I think that being able to temporarily cure a Maim with First Aid should be removed from the Isles.

Fifth: Thank you Kendra, I agree with much of what you said.


Dwayne

What about something like this

First Aid [Spiritual/Other 2]: You may touch another target and call 'First Aid' while role-playing binding
their wounds. You cannot use this skill while holding or using any weapons or packets. This will halt their
bleed-out count if they are bleeding. After one minute, you may call 'Stabilize' or 'Imbue Splinted by Medicine'.
The 'Stabilize' effect stops a target's bleed-out count and makes them stable instead of unstable. The 'Imbue
Splinted by Medicine' effect will give a character who is suffering from the "Maim" effect the trait "Splinted" which means that the Maimed limb will become usable until that character is struck again by a physical strike on that limb, or becomes unstable. Curing the Maimed limb (by magic or some other means) also removes the Splinted trait. The time it takes to perform this skill is doubled if you are using it on yourself. You must have at least one usable arm to perform this skill at all. Using this skill has
no Stamina cost, but the user may expend any number of Spiritual Stamina points to decrease the time it
takes by five seconds per Stamina point spent.

So we make Splinted a Trait (since those can change from game to game), and we have the First Aid'er Imbue that trait onto the person. Since it's up to the person giving a trait (Through Inflict or Imbue) to explain the trait through a card or through an IG method this leaves it up to the first aider to explain it to someone who doesn't know what it means yet.

Example:
Fighter: "Dammit, my leg, help me"
Mage: "Well I'm kind of tired right now, but I could put a splint on it."
Fighter: "Whatever, just get me walking again"
Mage leans over and performs first aid then says, "Imbue Splinted by Medicine"
Fighter: "What did you do to me?"
Mage: "Well it's kind of crude but I put a splint on it, just be careful the next time the leg gets struck it will be broken again, come back and see me in 5 minutes, so I can fix you up right"
Fighter: "Gee thanks a lot, I owe ya one"

--Vinnie

Either that, or Imbue Splinted <limb> by Medicine and then add more detail about the Trait going away, I made the changes above.

I agree, I actually had someone(forget who, and I wouldn't name names even if I did remember) come to me with a body that they had been crossing the field with and said, "I've been first aiding them as I carried them", I had to let the body know it was dead unfortunately.

It actually doesn't exist in our game, but it works a lot like our Karma. I know they use it to either boost stamina-like pools when they need it, or they can use it to refresh those same pools. I believe you wouldn't have seen it as an NPC because it's a PC thing....I dunno for sure though.