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Kitten wrote:Varius wrote:Myth or Fact: Called Shot and Backstab can be combined and the correct call is "Triple <##> Damage." I've never heard a Triple being called.... so, out on a limb, I'll say false for this one. Here is "Called Shot:"Rules wrote:Called Shot [Physical/Other 5]: This skill may be used with ANY weapon attack - melee weapon, packet arrow, nerf bullet, or thrown weapon. This skill allows you to add the call of "Double" to your damage call, which means you will do 2 attacks for the called number. You must pay the full stamina cost for your damage call (the total damage of the at-tack with the 'double') , Firearms do NOT add the usual +2 damage, and you MAY NOT exceed the damage cap on your weapon. If you have a sword with a damage cap of 6, you may spend 7 stamina and make a call of "Double 3," or you may spend 5 stamina and call "Double 2." If you have a firearm with a cap of 8, you may spend 9 stamina and make a call of "Double 4," 7 stamina to call "Double 3," and so on. You must at least call "Double 2" - there is no call of only "Double." The advantage to this attack is that a dodge de-fense only avoids one of the attacks. While you may hit for less damage, you are almost assured of hitting your target for some damage. ...and "Backstab:"Rules wrote:Backstab [Spiritual/Thief 8]: When using a short melee weapon (under 36”) from behind, this skill allows you to add the prefix “Double” to your Call. This skill costs the same number of Spiritual Stamina points as the Physical Stamina cost of any skill it is used in conjunction with. You must make the strike from behind, defined as being able to see both of the target’s shoulder blades, and both feet must be planted. For example, if calling “4-Damage” would normally cost you 5 Physical Stamina, Calling “Double-4-Damage” will cost you 5 Physical Stamina PLUS 5 Spiritual Stamina. When using a Backstab, weapon damage caps are NOT considered. The bonus for landing this very dif-ficult attack is that you have a chance to deal much more damage than you normally could with a smaller melee weapon. All other normal rules for the call of “Double” apply. This skill may be used with any melee attack (called damage, Stun, Maim, etc.) Double effect calls of Stun, Main, Agony, etc. have no other bonus/effect than to simply be harder to dodge/avoid. How I see it is this, Backstab simply allows you to add another layer of attack onto whatever you are attempting. If you are doing a Called Shot of, say, "Double-2-Damage" which might cost you 4 Physical Stamina, you could, theoretically, add another layer using Backstab and expend 4 Spiritual Stamina to call "Double-Double-2-Damage." Yeah, I know. There is no such thing as "Double-Double." So I think it would be reasonable to allow the Backstabbing character to expend 2 Spiritual Stamina to get to "Triple-2-Damage."
The thing is, Called Shot specifically says it can only be used with damage and Backstab specifically says it can only be used with a 36" or less melee weapon (which cannot have more than a 5 BMD -- Brose's nifty widget not withstanding), so the very narrow circumstances in which this maneuver could occur are rare in the extreme. But it is a neet option, no?
All of this aside, there is no provision in the rules to use these two skills together and thus it is a Myth.
...but that could change.
Dwayne
PS - I just noticed that "Triple-2-Damage" would excede the weapon's BMD and so, you'd have to ratchet down to "Triple-1-Damage," which is illegal.
So this means that these two skills cannot be combined and thus Elizabeth is absolutely correct that it is a MYTH!Assume no malice. Assume no altruism.
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